# European / Defence ETF?

**URL:** <https://community.investengine.com/t/european-defence-etf/2257>\
**Category:** General\
**Created:** [8 March 2025 12:15 UTC](https://community.investengine.com/t/european-defence-etf/2257 "2025-03-08T12:15:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![lee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc8723/32.png) [@lee](https://community.investengine.com/u/lee)\
**Post date:** [8 March 2025 12:15 UTC](https://community.investengine.com/t/european-defence-etf/2257/1 "2025-03-08T12:15:21Z")

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Does anyone have any suggestions for defence ETF’s?

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**Author:** ![Pinch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@Pinch](https://community.investengine.com/u/Pinch)\
**Post date:** [8 March 2025 13:27 UTC](https://community.investengine.com/t/european-defence-etf/2257/2 "2025-03-08T13:27:49Z")

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@lee  
Morning 😀 👋,

I like JustETF for looking up ETF’s - and they show only these 4 ETF’s, all accumulating, when looking for “defen”  
([https://www.justetf.com/uk/search.html?search=ETFS&query=defen](https://www.justetf.com/uk/search.html?search=ETFS&query=defen))

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/uploads/investengine/original/2X/7/7e4522b215acf4e868d0921f5924370ae695d0ed.png)

3 of these ETF’s are available in IE - the Global X ETF is not available yet - I have just asked for it to be added.

Request can be found here: [ETF Request - Global X Defence Tech UCITS ETF USD Accumulating](https://community.investengine.com/t/etf-request-global-x-defence-tech-ucits-etf-usd-accumulating/2258)

 ![image](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/uploads/investengine/original/2X/9/9cfad77ac47c599c6463935697728fbdb450cd8e.png)

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**Author:** ![lee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc8723/32.png) [@lee](https://community.investengine.com/u/lee)\
**Post date:** [8 March 2025 17:29 UTC](https://community.investengine.com/t/european-defence-etf/2257/3 "2025-03-08T17:29:54Z")

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Thanks Pinch - good suggestions. I had seen a couple of these on just etf. They are heavily US focused and i just wonder if it’s europe spending the money if they’ll try and use euro companies over the us and if there was anything more skewed to europe 🤔

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**Author:** ![Pinch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@Pinch](https://community.investengine.com/u/Pinch)\
**Post date:** [8 March 2025 18:10 UTC](https://community.investengine.com/t/european-defence-etf/2257/4 "2025-03-08T18:10:55Z")

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@lee  
Well… weapons development, whether they be fighter jets or body armour or digital “stuff” or anything else, needs certain conditions to be possible… favourable taxes, R&D, laboratories etc.

And while there has been, in general, widely publicised coverage in the media overall on cooperation in Europe when it comes to civilian (Airbus) and scientific endeavours (Renishaw in Gloucestershire and the Institute for Space at the University of Leicester to name but 2 contributors) - the news about military developments are scarce and one has to look into annual reports in order to see current and future money allocations.

Although the news from the US regarding demands on NATO to increase defence spending may have come as a surprise to the general public I would think that this had already been thought of as a possibility after the election.

And I’d wager that therefore plans have already been in place to allocate / redirect money accordingly - however public opinion about it still needs to be manipulated / swayed / influenced in most countries.

I would suggest subscribing to the newsletters of JustETF and ETFStream so as to be informed when new ETF’s launch / are being thought of.

For a broad sweep of topics I also subscribe to David Stevenson’s newsletter / substack.

This is the latest mention of Defence ETF’s I can find in his writings - 10/10/2024

> **[Investment Ideas : thematic investing is tough](https://davidstevenson.substack.com/p/investment-ideas-thematic-investing?utm_source=publication-search)**
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> Digging deeper into defence themes and the pet care revolution via Zoetis

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**Author:** ![Omian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/71e660/32.png) [@Omian](https://community.investengine.com/u/Omian)\
**Post date:** [9 March 2025 13:39 UTC](https://community.investengine.com/t/european-defence-etf/2257/5 "2025-03-09T13:39:32Z")

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Bit of heresy here but perhaps you could create your own. EG

 ![IMG_6374](https://europe1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/uploads/investengine/original/2X/d/d1f18476346f709ae52798d45a83e291817a64f4.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Pinch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@Pinch](https://community.investengine.com/u/Pinch)\
**Post date:** [9 March 2025 14:55 UTC](https://community.investengine.com/t/european-defence-etf/2257/6 "2025-03-09T14:55:22Z")

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Morning 👋 😀  
Oh, yes, you can definitely do this - but then it wouldn’t be an ETF 😉.

Best platform in this case might be Trading212.

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**Author:** ![lee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc8723/32.png) [@lee](https://community.investengine.com/u/lee)\
**Post date:** [9 March 2025 20:46 UTC](https://community.investengine.com/t/european-defence-etf/2257/7 "2025-03-09T20:46:30Z")

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Have you tried lightyear? I have heard a few good things.

And if we are not counting ETF’s i guess we could look at funds too - although i’ve no no research on funds yet.

The flip of this is if i’m making it too complicated - and i should just drop more into a Europe Etf and buy the whole market and trust that will cover it!

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**Author:** ![Pinch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@Pinch](https://community.investengine.com/u/Pinch)\
**Post date:** [9 March 2025 21:31 UTC](https://community.investengine.com/t/european-defence-etf/2257/8 "2025-03-09T21:31:00Z")

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@lee,

Morning 😀 👋,

Well… I think if you want it to be relatively hands-off - maybe stick to the 3 ETF’s on this platform and trust that any changes to each index they track will filter through to the ETF.

At least equally important are the following questions, imho:

1. which index is being tracked by this ETF?
2. How many ETF’s track this index?
3. How often is the index being updated? What is the methodology of this index?
4. how many companies are part of this index?
5. What is the overlap of companies between these indices / ETF’s?

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**Author:** ![Jbm479](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/53a042/32.png) [@Jbm479](https://community.investengine.com/u/Jbm479)\
**Post date:** [13 March 2025 06:08 UTC](https://community.investengine.com/t/european-defence-etf/2257/9 "2025-03-13T06:08:04Z")

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Wisdomtree have just launched a European defence ETF, not on IE yet. I have put in a request for it here: [ETF request - WisdomTree Europe Defence Ucits ETF (WDEF)](https://community.investengine.com/t/etf-request-wisdomtree-europe-defence-ucits-etf-wdef/2267)

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**Author:** ![stocklist.ai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@stocklist.ai](https://community.investengine.com/u/stocklist.ai)\
**Post date:** [14 March 2025 08:34 UTC](https://community.investengine.com/t/european-defence-etf/2257/10 "2025-03-14T08:34:30Z")

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FYI : You’ll need it to be the WDEP variant as InvestEngine only trades GBX/GBP whereas WDEF is traded in Euros.

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**Author:** ![stocklist.ai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@stocklist.ai](https://community.investengine.com/u/stocklist.ai)\
**Post date:** [14 March 2025 08:37 UTC](https://community.investengine.com/t/european-defence-etf/2257/11 "2025-03-14T08:37:35Z")

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Also… search volume via stocklist.ai for WDEP has gone wild since it listed only a few days ago. So there is clearly big demand for WDEP. Looks like Trading212, IBKR, Interactive Investor and AJBell have added them quickly to platform for trading.

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**Author:** ![UncleBob](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex017/user_avatar/community.investengine.com/unclebob/32/127_2.png) [@UncleBob](https://community.investengine.com/u/UncleBob)\
**Post date:** [14 March 2025 08:56 UTC](https://community.investengine.com/t/european-defence-etf/2257/12 "2025-03-14T08:56:54Z")

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It always amazes me how other platforms can add funds very quickly yet InvestEngine always seems to drag their heels. When funds are requested, either the request gets ignored or you get a vague teflon type reply stating the request will be passed on to the team for consideration.

…and maybe weeks if not months down the line the fund gets added. Admittedly sometimes a fund might get added soon, but the point is they’re never first.

Ironic that IE advertises itself as THE platform for ETF’s yet are always last past the goalpost.

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**Author:** ![Pinch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@Pinch](https://community.investengine.com/u/Pinch)\
**Post date:** [15 March 2025 10:27 UTC](https://community.investengine.com/t/european-defence-etf/2257/13 "2025-03-15T10:27:41Z")

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@lee  
Morning 👋 😀,

As we were talking about money allocation for defence and how this might be reflected in shifting country / holdings allocations in ETF’s…

> **[EU defense fund to be spent on European weapons, Commission President says](https://www.semafor.com/article/03/11/2025/eu-defense-fund-to-be-spent-on-european-weapons-commission-president-says)**
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> France and Germany — the EU’s largest economies — have disagreed over how EU defense funds should be spent.

Also…

> **[Why America betrayed Europe](https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/why-america-betrayed-europe)**
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> There are lots of reasons, actually.

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**Author:** ![fionagraham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5f8ce5/32.png) [@fionagraham](https://community.investengine.com/u/fionagraham)\
**Post date:** [18 March 2025 17:14 UTC](https://community.investengine.com/t/european-defence-etf/2257/14 "2025-03-18T17:14:33Z")

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Hi @UncleBob sorry you’re not happy. Just wanted to jump in and say, it may appear we’re ignoring the requests, but we’re honestly not. The replies probably feel a bit impersonal because there’s not a lot else to say.

We really do have a big spreadsheet, and all these requests (from across our different channels and direct messages to the customer service team) are entered into it.

Each ETF goes through a thorough due diligence process, where our investment team looks at factors like performance data, liquidity, and other important metrics. They then prioritise which ETFs to add.

This is a mix of ETFs that are large enough, so we feel it’s time to add them, client requests and ones with significant changes in AUM due to consolidations.  
A key factor is maintaining a high standard of quality control for all the funds available on our platform.

As I’ve posted previously - we’re getting more and more requests for ETFs from customers, so additions are now monthly, with the next round happening at the end of March.

We now offer over 770 ETFs with more expected to be added at the end of the month.  
Hope this helps - as I’ve said before, there’s a limit to how much we can share on a public forum, but we try and be as transparent as possible.
