Plans in case of a market crash

Reports of stock markets being overheated have been dragging on for the last couple of years, and still no real market correction or crash in sight. In fact, market returns in that period have been great. However, with Trump’s tariffs and general global geopolitical instability ramping up, the likelihood of a major crash on the horizon feels more likely than ever. It’s important for investors to be ready for this, and to have a game plan for when it happens, even if that is just hold, hold, hold.

I am not a financial advisor, and I’m not going to suggest any course of action, but I am happy to share what I plan to do in the event of a crash. And it would be great to hear from others on this subject too.

So here goes. First a bit of context: I’m not earning and not a regular investor. I have sufficient capital and live off this, so I need to sell equity to pay for my living expenses. Basically, I am FIRE, if you know what that is: Financially Independent, Retired Early. For anyone in this position (i.e. drawing down, such as pensioners too), we need to make sure we are not forced to sell equity at a low price, so this means having a significant buffer of money in less volatile assets, such as bonds, money market funds and cash. Normally I would have about 3 years worth of living expenses in these classes of assets, but because of my heightened concerns of a market crash, the depth and more importantly the length of that recessionary period, as well as some personal risk of increased expenditure in the next few years, I have been increasing my cash position over the last year, by selling equities. At this point, I have about 6 years worth of expenses in the less volatile asset classes. However, given the equity sales, I will also have a reasonably large capital gains tax bill come April. Unless there is a crash…

The first thing I will do in a crash is swap my equity position from one ETF to another, to generate a large negative capital gain. This would offset the gains from my sales earlier in the tax year, and so reduce my tax bill. Basically, I would be pushing that tax bill further down the road, when I may be able to spread it out more too, allowing me to pay tax at a lower rate.

How do I do this? Well, my equity is fully invested in a global ETF. I’m currently using the ACWI ETF, which invests in the MCSI all world index and has a Total Expense Ratio of 0.12%, which is fairly low. If the price of that ETF drops significantly below what I paid for it, I can sell it to generate a capital loss (a negative capital gain). What I must not then do is buy it straight back, as HMRC has two rules (the same day rule and the bed and breakfasting rule) that mean I cannot then claim the loss. However, what I believe I can do (and please correct me if I’m wrong, anybody - I’m not a financial advisor) is immediately buy shares in a different ETF. For me, this ETF will be WRDA, since it invests in the same index, and has an even lower TER of 0.06%. The way I will do this is to change the allocation of the portfolio from 100% ACWI to 100% WRDA, and hit the rebalance button on the morning of the day I choose to trade. This will mean my shares are sold and bought at the same time, so my money isn’t out of the market, and I don’t miss out on any gains or losses in between the two transactions.

The second thing I will do in a crash is to move some of my increased cash position back into equity. I will use the cash I have recently built up to buy more of the global ETF at the lower price. Will I be able to buy at the bottom? Likely I won’t time it right. It may be that I buy too early, and my new stock drops a further 50%. That’s ok, as I expect it to still bounce back in the coming months or years (though there is of course no guarantee of this). It may also be that I buy too late, after the stock has bounced back significantly. That too is ok. I don’t need to maximize my gains, I just need to buy in at an attractive price - one that is significantly lower (e.g. 30%+) than today’s price. I will again do this by rebalancing, to sell shares in a money market ETF (I’m using CSH2) and buy shares in WRDA at the same time. Note that I must be careful not to buy any shares in ACWI within 30 days of my sale of them, to avoid triggering the bed and breakfasting rules.

This strategy is by no means suitable for everyone. How about you? Are you mentally prepared for a crash? What will you do?

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Good luck calling the exact top and bottom! I am far too dense to try and figure that out so I will just keep buying every week if/when the crash happens.

Incidentally, PACW is only 0.07% TER and more globally diversified than WRDA - it’s also outperformed since inception so may be one to consider :slight_smile:

Good luck!

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Crashes are very rare. There have been four -30% brutal sell offs in my life time: 1987. 2001. 2008. 2020. So about once a decade. Im not expecting one; not sure why you are?

As for stock markets being “overheated”; we were told this in 1995 and markets continued to boom up until the attacks on the Twin Towers in NYC.

It is possible there will be another “lizz Truss” style bond crisis, although it might only see a 10% fall in the indexes. Not sure Keir Starmer resigning would cause global indexes to fall even 5%….. at a push.

Finally, I doubt Trump will allow markets to fall hard under his presidency.

Saying that, its always good to have a Plan or two ( ie plan B)

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I’m not expecting one so much as planning for one. It’s always good to have a plan for a crash. Without one, you might panic and do something stupid.

ACWI and WRDA don’t track the same index. Though they both track MSCI indices, ACWI tracks the MSCI all country world index and so includes emerging markets. WRDA tracks the MSCI world index; that’s actually a developed world index and so doesn’t include emerging markets.

In the event of a crash nothing will really change for me. I plan to just keep investing in equities and not holding cash or bonds etc.

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Yeah, I don’t think anyone can figure that out. So I’m not aiming to. Your strategy is very sensible for someone who is regularly investing.

Thanks. I’ll check it out. Info like this is why I come here. :grinning_face:

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Good to know. Thanks. Again, info like this is why I come here. :grinning_face:

It would definitely be a good time to keep investing.

You can set market orders or buy when you want with I.E, they place your order once at 3pm you get whetever the price is then

Just be aware CSH2 is not a money market fund (which is a highly regulated investment). CSH2 is very exposed to SocGen - it’s basically a fund that finances the bank via repo - so secured lending - but in your scenario of a stock market crash, the fund could be vulnerable if SocGen suffers.
I also hold CSH2 so not saying sell -just be aware it’s not a regulated money market fund

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Good to know. What highly regulated MMFs are available on IE? :folded_hands:

I don’t think there are any, I’m only aware of one MMF ETF but in EUR. There are quite a few mutual fund GBP MMF but they won’t be on IE. I’m sure some GBP ETF ones will be launched at some point, but in the meantime CSH2 and other similar funds are the closest.

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Sounds like an effective and well thought out approach. Are you in a position to move some of your investments into an ISA each year to minimise future capital gains charges?

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Thanks. Yes, I transfer the full ISA allowance into my ISA at the start of each tax year, and also max out my pension contributions into a SIPP.

Another tax efficient wrapper is off-shore bonds (income from the assets rolls up free of income tax, similar to a pension), but this feels less well regulated, and the expense ratios are higher, so I don’t use them currently.

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Vanguard has put language into recent communication that will allow them to create MMF ETF’s in the future but as of now they only have a fund in both Income and Accumulation versions (Sterling Short-Term Money Market Fund - Income Vanguard Asset Management | Personal Investing in the UK | Vanguard UK Investor) which will not be available on IE.

I can see it in AJ Bell and Hargreaves though.

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